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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by Fiona Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a horrifying and tragic story. It&#039;s hard to say which is most tragic, the story itself, or the way in which it is handled by those to whom the situation itself has no real bearing. 

On the one hand, I completely agree with Victoria Gill, that yes, the good comments should outshine the bad, however, it&#039;s hard to think that if this was my family, I would accept the bad just as readily as the good. 

Nichola Mansfield is quite correct, in my opinion, when she states that everyone holds the right to freedom of speech, but I personally believe that everybody also holds the right to retain their dignity and respect, even in death. Furthermore, I believe that those grieving this tragic loss should also be granted the peace and privacy that they not only request, but also deserve at such a hard time. 

I completely agree with airing one&#039;s personal views, but to such a vile and upsetting extent that it belittles a person and their loved ones, even in death? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a horrifying and tragic story. It&#8217;s hard to say which is most tragic, the story itself, or the way in which it is handled by those to whom the situation itself has no real bearing. </p>
<p>On the one hand, I completely agree with Victoria Gill, that yes, the good comments should outshine the bad, however, it&#8217;s hard to think that if this was my family, I would accept the bad just as readily as the good. </p>
<p>Nichola Mansfield is quite correct, in my opinion, when she states that everyone holds the right to freedom of speech, but I personally believe that everybody also holds the right to retain their dignity and respect, even in death. Furthermore, I believe that those grieving this tragic loss should also be granted the peace and privacy that they not only request, but also deserve at such a hard time. </p>
<p>I completely agree with airing one&#8217;s personal views, but to such a vile and upsetting extent that it belittles a person and their loved ones, even in death? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by Victoria GIll</title>
		<link>http://debzw.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/to-comment-or-not-to-comment/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria GIll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just read the comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website. The horrible comments had been removed but I got the jist from the replies.
I too think it is sickening how some people can be so insensitive in the event of a death but I would like to turn it around and point out all the good comments on the site.
There are plenty of comments with people sending their thoughts and prayers to the family, their deepest sympathies and generally saying how sorry they are for the loss of a young life.
Most of these people don&#039;t know Peter, or his family, yet they have taken the time to feel empathetic and let the family know how they feel.
Many comments have been left about Sophie Lancaster (the poor girl killed for being a goth) and I have been left with my faith in mankind restored. Some of them spoke of crying when they heard the story. Some have joined campaigns and made goth groups in support. Others have held tributes. All for someone they don&#039;t know.
Ignore the bad comments, it is not worth worrying over them. Put your energies into the people that care. There are more than you think. It is just a shame a tragedy has to happen to show it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read the comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website. The horrible comments had been removed but I got the jist from the replies.<br />
I too think it is sickening how some people can be so insensitive in the event of a death but I would like to turn it around and point out all the good comments on the site.<br />
There are plenty of comments with people sending their thoughts and prayers to the family, their deepest sympathies and generally saying how sorry they are for the loss of a young life.<br />
Most of these people don&#8217;t know Peter, or his family, yet they have taken the time to feel empathetic and let the family know how they feel.<br />
Many comments have been left about Sophie Lancaster (the poor girl killed for being a goth) and I have been left with my faith in mankind restored. Some of them spoke of crying when they heard the story. Some have joined campaigns and made goth groups in support. Others have held tributes. All for someone they don&#8217;t know.<br />
Ignore the bad comments, it is not worth worrying over them. Put your energies into the people that care. There are more than you think. It is just a shame a tragedy has to happen to show it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It will never happen to someone I know by Victoria GIll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria GIll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And did you ever find out if her killer was brought to justice?
It seems that all too often we hear about these horrendous crimes and then never hear about the aftermath.
A young boy was beaten to death in my home town. There was an article in the local newspaper, the Todmorden News and Advertiser, about the incident but then nothing more was heard.
It was only because it is a small town that any information could be found out from idle gossip.
Surely, if it was publicised about the punishments these criminals get, then it would serve as a deterrent to others.
At the moment, the media gives the impression that you can attack someone, even kill them, without fear of retribution. It is dispicable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And did you ever find out if her killer was brought to justice?<br />
It seems that all too often we hear about these horrendous crimes and then never hear about the aftermath.<br />
A young boy was beaten to death in my home town. There was an article in the local newspaper, the Todmorden News and Advertiser, about the incident but then nothing more was heard.<br />
It was only because it is a small town that any information could be found out from idle gossip.<br />
Surely, if it was publicised about the punishments these criminals get, then it would serve as a deterrent to others.<br />
At the moment, the media gives the impression that you can attack someone, even kill them, without fear of retribution. It is dispicable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by babbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>babbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments seem to form the basis of much controversy in local papers especially.

On the one hand, as Nichola Mansfield pointed out, everybody has the right to freedom of speech. We live in a democracy and it is vital that the public have the chance to air their views.

For journalists in particular, comments can be very useful. They can get feedback on their stories, they can follow up possible leads and they can view the reaction to their work.

However, journalists are now having to deal with comment on their stories and are hearing an answer to the question instead of forming a rhetoric.

Also, should everybody have the chance to air their views if their views insight racial hatred or extremism. I don&#039;t think so.

You will always have people willing to comment in a horrible way on tragic events. What recent technology has allowed however, that creates a problem, is the opportunity for these views to be published and read by anyone and everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments seem to form the basis of much controversy in local papers especially.</p>
<p>On the one hand, as Nichola Mansfield pointed out, everybody has the right to freedom of speech. We live in a democracy and it is vital that the public have the chance to air their views.</p>
<p>For journalists in particular, comments can be very useful. They can get feedback on their stories, they can follow up possible leads and they can view the reaction to their work.</p>
<p>However, journalists are now having to deal with comment on their stories and are hearing an answer to the question instead of forming a rhetoric.</p>
<p>Also, should everybody have the chance to air their views if their views insight racial hatred or extremism. I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>You will always have people willing to comment in a horrible way on tragic events. What recent technology has allowed however, that creates a problem, is the opportunity for these views to be published and read by anyone and everyone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by Beverley Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beverley Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really see how anyone has the right to comment upon an event like this, if they had nothing to do with the incident, did not know the person involved and until reading about it, did not know of their existence, then what makes them feel that they have any occasion to offer their personal opinion? Whatever the circumstance it is no-one else&#039;s business and to publicly state your negative thoughts is sickening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see how anyone has the right to comment upon an event like this, if they had nothing to do with the incident, did not know the person involved and until reading about it, did not know of their existence, then what makes them feel that they have any occasion to offer their personal opinion? Whatever the circumstance it is no-one else&#8217;s business and to publicly state your negative thoughts is sickening.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Baby with two faces by Kavya</title>
		<link>http://debzw.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/baby-with-two-faces/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India is a land of extreme superstitions. People go to any ridiculous extent to prove their point. Though some of the beliefs have scientific base, things like this are horrible. How can the baby possibily survive long, besides calling her God.

This is nothing new in Indian villages and nothing will change either..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India is a land of extreme superstitions. People go to any ridiculous extent to prove their point. Though some of the beliefs have scientific base, things like this are horrible. How can the baby possibily survive long, besides calling her God.</p>
<p>This is nothing new in Indian villages and nothing will change either..</p>
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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by Magda</title>
		<link>http://debzw.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/to-comment-or-not-to-comment/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Magda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree with the comment you quoted. 
There is such thing as empathy, and if you are capable of feeling it, you know when and what to speak. People devoid of this skill ( can I call it a skill? an ability maybe? ) should be banned from participating in public discussions, for I believe they leave their nasty comments fully consciously, and solely for the pleasure of hurting others. What is the reason for it? No idea. It seems sick to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with the comment you quoted.<br />
There is such thing as empathy, and if you are capable of feeling it, you know when and what to speak. People devoid of this skill ( can I call it a skill? an ability maybe? ) should be banned from participating in public discussions, for I believe they leave their nasty comments fully consciously, and solely for the pleasure of hurting others. What is the reason for it? No idea. It seems sick to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by Casanova1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casanova1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The persons responsible for the derogatory and hurtful comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website should take a long, hard look in the mirror and think about the enormity of their actions, and the ignorance displayed by them.

Undoubtedly, some people are easier to get on with than others as this is the very nature of the world we live in. And when someone dies, they are almost always portrayed as the nicest person their close family and friends has ever known. But the rationale behind this, is that it would not be moral to point out character flaws when one has passed away. The abusive commenters might care to wonder why they acted so irrationally, and did not keep such defamatory ideas and opinions to themselves.

I cannot imagine that the authors of these comments would be happy if the shoe was on the other foot either. Imagine if you will that it was their son who had tragically lost their life and other people were casting aspersions and being nasty about him. They would not take kindly to the insulting prose, of that I am sure. Perhaps, in the future, they should think about whether their actions reflect them in a light they would like to be portrayed in, and whether they would like to receive the comments they posted in the position of being parents of the dead boy.

It has to be said though, that these comments do point to a more sinister side of human nature, and a lack of respect not so common in our forefathers. One cannot imagine a war hero being defamed and abused publicly in this way, nor even a humble coalminer. The advent of digital and online media has definitely aided freedom of speech, but one has to wonder whether such autonomy is a good thing on the whole, especially with such vindictive, evil human beings able to access their computers.

My only hope is that such comments can now be put in the past and the parents of this boy be allowed to bury him in peace and mourn without more vile intrusions into their silent grieving from such uncaring individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The persons responsible for the derogatory and hurtful comments on the Lancashire Telegraph website should take a long, hard look in the mirror and think about the enormity of their actions, and the ignorance displayed by them.</p>
<p>Undoubtedly, some people are easier to get on with than others as this is the very nature of the world we live in. And when someone dies, they are almost always portrayed as the nicest person their close family and friends has ever known. But the rationale behind this, is that it would not be moral to point out character flaws when one has passed away. The abusive commenters might care to wonder why they acted so irrationally, and did not keep such defamatory ideas and opinions to themselves.</p>
<p>I cannot imagine that the authors of these comments would be happy if the shoe was on the other foot either. Imagine if you will that it was their son who had tragically lost their life and other people were casting aspersions and being nasty about him. They would not take kindly to the insulting prose, of that I am sure. Perhaps, in the future, they should think about whether their actions reflect them in a light they would like to be portrayed in, and whether they would like to receive the comments they posted in the position of being parents of the dead boy.</p>
<p>It has to be said though, that these comments do point to a more sinister side of human nature, and a lack of respect not so common in our forefathers. One cannot imagine a war hero being defamed and abused publicly in this way, nor even a humble coalminer. The advent of digital and online media has definitely aided freedom of speech, but one has to wonder whether such autonomy is a good thing on the whole, especially with such vindictive, evil human beings able to access their computers.</p>
<p>My only hope is that such comments can now be put in the past and the parents of this boy be allowed to bury him in peace and mourn without more vile intrusions into their silent grieving from such uncaring individuals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by Nichola Mansfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nichola Mansfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Matt and Adam&#039;s comments.

At the end of the day people are just plain ignorant. I work in a borough where 45% of the population is from a black or minority ethnic group. The local papers website is always full of rascist comments that should not only offend BME groups but white people too - they are disgusting! The editor does eventually remove them but this does not bring cohesion to a borough that has such a diverse community.

The opposite argument to that is, and I do not agree with it at all, but that everyone has freedom to speech.

Topcat&#039;s comments had obviously been removed by the time I checked out the article, and quite rightly so, as Peter&#039;s family and friends would have seen them. Not only have they lost a loved one but then they have to put up with mindless sh*t from some ignorant person who has nothing better to do than write cruel and upsetting things on a blog that is so full of love and memories of a young lad who was involved in a very tragic accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Matt and Adam&#8217;s comments.</p>
<p>At the end of the day people are just plain ignorant. I work in a borough where 45% of the population is from a black or minority ethnic group. The local papers website is always full of rascist comments that should not only offend BME groups but white people too &#8211; they are disgusting! The editor does eventually remove them but this does not bring cohesion to a borough that has such a diverse community.</p>
<p>The opposite argument to that is, and I do not agree with it at all, but that everyone has freedom to speech.</p>
<p>Topcat&#8217;s comments had obviously been removed by the time I checked out the article, and quite rightly so, as Peter&#8217;s family and friends would have seen them. Not only have they lost a loved one but then they have to put up with mindless sh*t from some ignorant person who has nothing better to do than write cruel and upsetting things on a blog that is so full of love and memories of a young lad who was involved in a very tragic accident.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To comment or not to comment? by Matt Tancock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Tancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people need to know when to keep their opinions to themselves and spare a thought for this poor boys family and friends.I know the ins and outs of this story and it is terribly unpleasant the details in which this young lad died. If some a**ehole feels the need to leave an abusive or negative comment then we are in a sorry state of affairs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people need to know when to keep their opinions to themselves and spare a thought for this poor boys family and friends.I know the ins and outs of this story and it is terribly unpleasant the details in which this young lad died. If some a**ehole feels the need to leave an abusive or negative comment then we are in a sorry state of affairs</p>
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